Elizabeth Fremantle answers your questions about ‘Sisters of Treason’

Thank you to everyone who entered the competition. Elizabeth Fremantle has very kindly answered all the questions that were submitted.

Barry
Not so much a questions as a request. Having read Queens Gambit and thinking it was excellent, have thought about writing a book myself, I already have the core of the story but want to set it in the Elizabethan era. Do you have any recommendations of the best places I should look (bibliography etc) for some historical social history to make it much more sure footed?

I’d recommend, as a good place to start, Ian Mortimer’s The Time Traveller’s Guide to Elizabethan England. It will point you in the direction of other excellent texts. Otherwise there is a fairly comprehensive book list in the back of Sisters of Treason.


Kathryn
There isn’t that much written about Lady Mary Grey (fiction and non fiction) why is this and do you think her other sisters had a good relationship with her?

I think perhaps people have shunned writing about Mary because she was disabled. That was something that I wanted to focus on specifically – to draw a character who despite severe physical challenges, was spirited and defiant and courageous enough to strike out for personal happiness at great risk. I have not read anywhere that Mary’s relationship with her sisters was problematic and in the novel I have depicted them as very close.


Helene
What do you think about history being fictionalised and how far is it okay to change the facts to suit an end?

Personally, in my own work, I feel it is important to stick to the historical facts as we know them but at such a distance there are many gaps and grey areas; it is in these spaces I give reign to creativity. I am primarily interested in the people themselves and not how they might fit into my fictional scheme, rather it is the fictional scheme that must be made to fit them, if that makes sense. Obviously we are not party to the thoughts and feelings of people who lived four and a half centuries ago and, as fiction is usually character led and character must be drawn from the inside out, then perhaps that is where the greatest invention lies. That is my own method of working and I certainly prefer to read historically accurate novels, but I believe that writers of fiction must approach history in the way that best suits their own particular project.


Patricia
Did Lady Mary and Lady Catherine grow up at Bradgate in Leicestershire?

Yes, Bradgate was one of the Grey family’s homes and the girls certainly spent some of their childhood there. In those days the nobility moved about a good deal between their estates but Bradgate was, I believe, the main family residence.


Hamish
Why do you think Elizabeth never had her mother’s marriage legalised thus wiping away her illegitimacy and do you think she really was concerned about Katherine Grey’s claim to the throne or was she merely using this as a pretext to rid herself of a person who was seen by some to have a more legitimate claim?

Perhaps Elizabeth felt that seeking to legalise her mother’s marriage might have suggested that she didn’t believe fully in her own legitimacy. It’s hard to know what her particular motives might have been for such things at such a distance in time, so one can only speculate. I do believe that she was concerned about Katherine Grey’s claim – it was a strong one and supported by her father’s act of succession – but then again she was concerned about any possible claimants weakening her position. It is generally supposed that she refused to name a successor for fear of losing her own position to them, which makes sense, but was disastrous for the country, particularly towards the end of her reign. In the case of the Greys she always viewed them as traitor stock, though how she reconciled that with her close relationship to Robert Dudley, whose brother and father were caught up in the same treachery, I do not know.


Tracie
When writing about a historical character of which not much is known, how do you decide what to do in order to “flesh them out”? Is there a certain reference method you use, or is it mostly author creative licensing?

It really depends on the individual character. If we know some things about an individual’s life then we can come to an understanding of how and why they went from point A to point B and the choices they might have made to get there. Even if very little is known about a person it is important to be armed with as much knowledge about the situation, environment and people around them, and from that extrapolate a sense of what that individual’s place might have been within that. I then try to get under the skin of the known facts and into the humanity beneath. From there a character begins to emerge but it is always an act of imagination, because however much historical record we have about people from the past we rarely, unless they have left very intimate letters, get a glimpse into their souls.


Catherine
I’d be interested in your view of Frances Gray & her relationship with the girls, do you agree with Leanda De Lisle that she’s a much maligned character?

I do indeed agree with Leanda de Lisle that poor Frances Grey has been misjudged. Just think of that portrait of stern, matronly Lady Dacre and her son, which was long assumed to be of Frances and her second husband and used as a way to judge her as lascivious and cradle-snatching. In fact Frances’s second husband Adrian Stokes was only a couple of years her junior. It makes one realise that the truth can become buried beneath supposition and judgement, so I felt compelled to depict Frances differently in Sisters of Treason.


Zoe
I am interested to know your thoughts on Henry’s true feelings towards Anne of Cleeves. Do you believe he regretted his disregard of her considering their later friendship? And would things have been different for them had the young Catherine Howard not caught his eye?

It’s impossible to know what Henry truly thought of Anne of Cleves but my impression is that he was simply not attracted to her – a question of chemistry – and that Katherine Howard had nothing to do with the outcome of their marriage. There was a political agenda behind the marriage which had been eclipsed rather quickly, so the match, from a perspective of international connections, had lost it’s allure too.


Eliza
Do you think that Lady Jane Grey wanted to become Queen? Did she see this as her mission in life or she was just doing her parents’ bid?

There is a case to be made for thinking that she might have felt it was God’s wish for her and, as she was particularly devout, she might have welcomed it for that reason, however reluctantly. So perhaps it is obedience to God rather than just her parents, though there is little doubt she was manipulated by Northumberland and her father.


Alex
Which book did you most enjoy writing, ‘Queen’s Gambit’ or ‘Sisters of Treason?’

Queen’s Gambit was more of a challenge, perhaps because it was my first historical novel; after the second draft it simply wasn’t working, so I had to scrap everything I’d written and start again from scratch. That experience taught me much and so I came to Sisters of Treason armed with that knowledge. But the truth is I simply enjoy the writing and the research, however difficult it is.


Ellie
Do you think that Philip of Spain would have married Mary I, if Jane Grey had not been executed?

It is unlikely, because she would have had little international prestige in such a situation. Philip of spain was one of the most powerful figures in Europe and would have only married a woman who could have brought with her important connections.


Suzanne
Have you visited any places connected with the Grey sisters?

I spend some of my research time visiting the sites connected with my characters and as the Grey girls were at court they will have lived at Hampton Court, which is the best surviving example of the Royal palaces along the Thames. The Tower of London too, offers insights into Katherine’s incarceration and of course Bradgate Park, though a ruin, remains an inspiration.


Kat
Which of the Grey sisters did you enjoy writing about the most?

Probably Mary Grey: she was hugely demanding because it took a leap of imagination and a good deal of research to try and understand what it might have been for her with the physical challenges she faced. But when I finally began to find her voice her character became increasingly appealing.


Rachel
Do you think Edward Seymour really loved Katherine or loved the idea of the throne more?

To answer this properly would mean a spoiler for the novel so I’m afraid I will have to leave you hanging.


Dominique
After what happened to Katherine, why do you think Mary risked marrying?

And again, as with the previous question, I fear answering this would spoil people’s enjoyment of the novel.


Marie
As a child I was force fed a diet of Georgette Heyer, which I think of as historical fiction junk food! But which authors did you read growing up that inspired you to choose this particular fiction genre?

I read voraciously as a child and loved the novels of Jean Plaidy and all her many pseudonyms. Astonishingly she wrote three books a year, so inevitably some were better than others, but I didn’t care about that as the stories were so absorbing and they certainly sewed the seed of my fascination for women in history.

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Books 2014: On sale today – Tudor: The Family Story by Leanda de Lisle


Tudor: The Family Story by Leanda de Lisle (Vintage, £8.99)

Tudor: The Family Story by Leanda de Lisle (Vintage, £8.99)


‘The Tudors are a national obsession; they are our most notorious royal family. But, as Leanda de Lisle shows in this gripping new history, beyond the well-worn headlines is a family still more extraordinary than the one we thought we knew.

The Tudor canon typically starts with the Battle of Bosworth in 1485, before speeding on to Henry VIII and the Reformation. But this leaves out the family’s obscure Welsh origins, the ordinary man known as Owen Tudor who would fall (literally) into a Queen’s lap, and later her bed. It passes by the courage of Margaret Beaufort, the pregnant thirteen-year-old girl who would help found the Tudor dynasty; and the childhood and painful exile of her son, the future Henry VII. It ignores the fact that the Tudors were shaped by their past – those parts they wished to remember and those they wished to forget.

By creating a full family portrait set against the background of this past, Leanda de Lisle enables us to see the Tudors in their own terms, rather than ours; and presents new perspectives and revelations on key figures and events. We see a family dominated by remarkable women doing everything possible to secure its future; understand why the Princes in the Tower were disappeared; look again at the bloodiness of Mary’s reign; at Elizabeth’s relationships with her cousins; and re-discover the true significance of previously overlooked figures. We see the supreme importance of achieving peace and stability in a violent and uncertain world, and of protecting and securing the bloodline.

Tudor tells a family story like no other, and brings it once more to vivid life.’

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Leanda de Lisle


You can win one of three copies here


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And the winners of Sisters of Treason are…

Helene
Kathryn R
Eliza
Kat
Ellie

Your names were selected by Elizabeth Fremantle to win a copy of Sisters of Treason. I will be emailing you shortly.

Thank you to everyone who took part.

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Hunting Jane / Jane Doe by Leanda de Lisle


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Historian Leanda de Lisle has very kindly written this guest article. The paperback of the best selling, ‘Tudor: The Family Story’ is published on Thursday 5th June.


Tudor: The Family Story by Leanda de Lisle (Vintage, £8.99)

Tudor: The Family Story by Leanda de Lisle (Vintage, £8.99)


A renaissance-hunting scene opens Trevor Nunn’s 1985 film, Lady Jane. Amongst the white clad riders is Frances, mother of the future Nine Day’s Queen. When the doe is brought to bay, Frances dismounts. Soon a river of blood will run on the snow. The scene captures her historical reputation as a destroyer of innocents and foreshadows Jane’s fate. But history has traduced Frances and buried the real life of Lady Jane Grey.

Frances was Henry VIII’s niece and the wife of Harry Grey, Marques of Dorset. Under the terms of the late King’s will her daughters followed Mary and Elizabeth Tudor, half sisters of Henry’s son, Edward VI, in line to the throne. But it was expected that young Edward would one day marry. Harry Grey pursued the hope that it would be to the eldest Grey girl, Jane. It is Frances, nevertheless, who is credited with being the dominant force in the family, and one whose ambition would destroy Jane. She was, historian Alison Weir tells, ‘greedy for power and riches’, ruling ‘her husband and daughters tyrannically and, in the case of the latter, often cruelly’.

The accusations of child abuse originate in the same story that fuelled later claims that Frances was a bloodthirsty huntress. Over a decade after Jane had died the academic, Roger Ascham, described finding the thirteen-year old prodigy reading Plato in Greek, while the rest of the household was out hunting. Hunting was then considered a noble and practical pursuit, supplying a house with food and skins. There was nothing exceptional in Frances being amongst them. More damning is that Ascham also recalled Jane explaining that she loved to study because lessons with her kindly tutor were a respite from ‘sharp, severe parents’. Ascham was, however, writing to an agenda: his desire to overturn harsh contemporary teaching methods. At the time he met Jane he had commented only on her parents’ pride in her work, and the ‘kindly’ tutor was busy expressing a desire to ‘bridle’ a spirited teenager.

Tales of Frances’s exceptional cruelty don’t bear close examination. But what of the further accusation that she drove Jane to her death through greed and ambition?

By the summer of 1553, when Jane was sixteen, it was evident Edward VI was dying. Anxious that his Catholic half sister, Mary Tudor, should not undo his religious reforms, he had written a will excluding his sisters from the succession on grounds of their illegitimacy (the marriages of their mothers to his father having been annulled). In their place he named the passionately Protestant Jane. That Jane was now to be a Queen regnant was not an outcome that Frances had sought. Her own claim to the throne was superior to her daughter’s under the usual rules of inheritance. Frances was, rather, obliged to accept the King’s decision: one likely inspired by Edward’s judgement that Jane was more likely than she to produce a male heir.

As a mark of submission Frances carried her daughter’s train in the procession to the Tower, where Jane was proclaimed Queen on July 10th 1553. The additional and famous description of Jane, tiny, red-haired, and smiling, said to have been written by a contemporary witness, is, I can reveal, a twentieth century fraud.

Frances remained with her daughter while a determined Jane raised an army to fight for her throne against Mary Tudor. And, when Jane was overthrown nine days later, it was Frances who rode all night to see Mary and beg for the lives of her family. It was through no fault of her own that Frances’s efforts came to nothing. Jane continued to attack Mary’s religious policies even while a prisoner. And when Harry Grey took part in a failed revolt against Mary in January 1554, Jane was judged a continuing threat.

On the scaffold, aware that the Protestant cause was being tainted by treason, Jane’s last speech reminded people that while she was guilty in law, she had accepted the crown she was bequeathed and was innocent of having sought it. She was beheaded on February 12th dying, it was said, ‘with more than manly courage’. Religious propagandists later developed Jane’s clams to innocence and over the centuries the girl who had held all the power of a Tudor monarch, became an icon of female helplessness. The sado-masochistic dimension to this is evident in Paul Delaroche’s 1833 historical portrait, ‘The Execution of Lady Jane Grey’, now at the centre of a major exhibition at the National Gallery. Jane dressed in white, feeling blindly for the block, has all the erotic overtones of a virgin sacrifice.

Frances, meanwhile, was re-invented as Jane’s alter ego: powerful, ruthless, and sexually predatory. A double portrait of Lady Dacre and her son by Hans Eworth was, from 1727, said to depict Frances and a twenty one year old boy she married within weeks of her husband’s execution. In fact Frances married the middle-aged Adrian Stokes a year later. The revelation of the true identity of the Eworth sitters, in the 1980s, has not prevented Jane’s biographers from continuing to use the image of Lady Dacre to claim a resemblance between Frances and Henry VIII.

This urge to associate powerful women with masculine characteristics is an ancient one, and has fuelled the caricature of Frances the bloodthirsty huntress. Unlike reading, bridling a galloping horse does not well reflect the passive, gentle nature traditionally expected of women. The good girl is always the weak doe. The wicked woman holds the reins of power. That is the moral of the spun history of Lady Jane Grey and her mother. Strange we remain so willing to accept it.


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George Boleyn: Tudor Poet, Courtier and Diplomat Virtual Book Tour – Win a Copy and Guest Article – This competition is now closed


I am delighted to welcome Clare Cherry and Claire Ridgway to the Lady Jane Grey Reference Guide for day 6 of their virtual book tour to celebrate the publication of ‘George Boleyn: Tudor Poet, Courtier and Diplomat.’


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As well as giving us an insight into how the book came about, they have very kindly donated a copy for a worldwide giveaway.


To enter:

Email me at ljgcompetition at yahoo.co.uk , with George Boleyn in the Subject line and leave your name and country. Replace at with @.

The competition ends at midnight (UK time) on Sunday 7th June.

The winner will be selected at random by Claire Ridgway.

Good luck!


How George Boleyn: Tudor Poet, Courtier and Diplomat came about


Clare


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I’ve always been interested in Tudor history, and read a lot of Starkey’s books in my teens and early twenties. Primarily my interest was in Elizabeth I, but later Henry VIII and his wives too. I had never read any historical fiction books, but in mid 2006, based on the popularity of the book, I read ‘The Other Boleyn Girl’ by Philippa Gregory. Although I enjoyed the story, I was bemused by the portrayal of George Boleyn, and by the author’s note suggesting that the group of men who surrounded Anne included a homosexual element including her brother. I had never read that before so I investigated where the story came from.

I initially looked up George Boleyn’s name on the Internet, and saw that there was very little about him other than the fact that he was the brother accused of incest with Anne. There were countless references to his homosexuality, and I then read the book which first came up with that, namely Retha Warnicke’s biography of Anne written during the late 1980s. I was very unconvinced by her arguments, and so I then read Eric Ives’ biography of Anne, which is probably the most respected of all the books written about Anne. He gave more details about George than I had seen before, but even here George was only a bit player.

I had gradually become interested in George to the extent that I wanted to learn more about him. The problem was knowing where to look. The non-fiction books I read all had very diverse views of him but were sorely lacking in information. I then took a look at Ives’ bibliography, in particular the primary sources. It was a bit of a eureka moment when I came to the conclusion that there was no reason why I couldn’t go back to the primary sources myself. After all they aren’t there just for historians, and, irrespective of the fact that I was no historian, I took a look at them.

I started with all those sources which Ives referred to when discussing George, so I read Letters and Papers of Henry VIII in 21 volumes, and then when onto the Lisle Letters. I started reading anything I could get my hands on which referred to George. The more I read the more passionate I became about writing as accurate account of George’s life as I could. At first I was going to write a pamphlet, mainly for my own pleasure, but the pamphlet grew and grew as I found more and more information about him. My small pamphlet gradually grew into a book sized manuscript.

Then in late 2009 I came across a site called The Anne Boleyn Files and took a look at it. I made a couple of comments on Claire’s articles, and in early 2010 I sent her an email and later my George manuscript as we became friends and when I realised she too was interested in George as well as Anne.

So over to Claire!

Claire

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As Clare said, we had got to know each other through Clare commenting on my articles on The Anne Boleyn Files. This, in turn, led to us corresponding by email and eventually meeting when Clare and her partner came on The Anne Boleyn Experience tour in summer 2011. We just clicked, probably because we’re both Tudor addicts and we both get completely obsessed about things.

When I read Clare’s draft manuscript, I told her that she had to get it published and out there for people to read. I knew from my experience running The Anne Boleyn Files and writing about Anne that people were hungry for information on George, and that there were assumptions out there that needed to be challenged just as those about Anne had been.

Clare had put an immense amount of work into her manuscript, it was so detailed and was fully referenced. She’d shown it to historian James Carley, who said that it needed more work and editing, and she’d become disheartened, but I knew that it was worth working on. After months of twisting her arm (and I mean twisting her arm – at one point she wanted to destroy the manuscript!), she agreed to us working on it as a joint project. Clare had changed her mind about some things, particularly her portrayal of Jane Boleyn, and there were various parts of the book where I had expertise because of the research I had done, for example, the books that had belonged to George and Anne, and also their faith. My knowledge of French also meant that I could explore the French sources in a bit more depth and get to grips with Edmond Bapst’s 19th century biography of George, which I also worked on with a professional translator. We decided to carry out more research and then weave together our research and rewrite the book. We had appreciated the bibliographies and notes of books we used for research, so our book is also fully referenced so that readers can see what our portrayal of George is based on.

It was a huge project, but I enjoyed every minute of working with Clare. Every step of the way we wanted to be true to George and we didn’t want a book full of “may be”s and “probably”s. I hope that the end result is a book that will satisfy readers’ curiosity about George and that has “fleshed” him out. He had an incredible career and life, and he deserves to be recognised for the man he was, rather than the man many of us know from fiction.


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